The Blessed Holy Trinity
Let's begin by observing that it is not clear that the human mind should be able to understand God.
(By the way, a report from ancient Cherokee Indian people speaks to a Trinitarian awareness of God -- that is cited at the very bottom of this write-up).
I'd like to quote from Nicky Gumbel's "Searching Issues" . He cites the illustration of "the universe itself, being made up of space, time, and matter: space, with its length, breadth and height; time, with its future, past and present; matter, consisting of energy, motion, and phenomena.
Nicky cites John Eddison's "Talking to Children," which uses the analogy of a book. "A book exists in three different and distinct ways at once -- in the mind of the author, on the shelf in a library, and in the imagination of the reader."
Nicky goes on to discuss three "limiting factors" in our understanding of the Trinity. In one of these, he offers these insights that I think give the BEST analogy for a basic approach to the Trinity:
FINALLY "an example... from the world of science ... the nature of light. ... sometimes it seemed to behave as if it was a wave, and sometimes as if it was a particle. ... How could it be two totally different things? But eventually, through the development of the Quantum Theory, it was found that this contradiction expressed a fundamental difficulty in grasping what the nature of light really was... on account of our difficulties in conceiving it." [Here Nicky is quoting Alister McGrath].
These pages and the introductory quotes are from Searching Issues, one of the three discussion books for the Alpha teaching video series (a dinner-discussion format for local churches), pages 112 and following. (Book published by Cook Ministry Resources, Cook Communications Ministries, Colorado Springs Colorado USA).
The Alpha resources are available at
It was reported that among the ancient Cherokees there was a body of opinion that "said there existed above three beings who were always together and of the same mind.
The names of these beings were: first, U ha lo te qa, ‘Head of all power,’ or literally
‘Great beyond expression’; second, A ta nv ti, ‘United,’ or rather
‘The place of uniting’ where persons agreed to meet and form a perpetual friendship; third, U
sqa hu la, the meaning of which could not, in 1835, any longer be learned, but it had something
to do with ‘mind’ or ‘affection.’ These three, it was said, were always one in sentiment and
action and would always continue to be the same. They created all things, were acquainted with
all, were present everywhere, and governed all things. … all prayers were directed to them.
They had messengers, or angels, who came into this world and attended to the affairs of men.
The 1835 interviews were of "aged Cherokees whose primary sources took them well back into the 1600’s," who "said that as far back
as their history could be traced" this understanding existed -- as a minority sect, while the larger sect among the Cherokees believed that multiple beings
"came down from above and formed the world. They then created the sun and moon and
appointed them lords of all lower creation. After this, the beings returned to their own place
above, known only to themselves, where they remained in entire rest, paying no attention to this
world. The sun then completed the work of creation, formed the first man and woman, caused
the trees, plants, fruits and vegetables to grow ..." [ note by webmaster Bob's -- Does that make these Cherokees the first Deists?]
Citations are from page 143 of The Cherokee People: The Story of the Cherokees from Earliest Origins to
Thomas E. Mails, NY: Marlowe & Co. 1992
A concluding note from your website author:
When we stop to explore the basic aspects of meeting God, we realize that we would expect that there would be profound aspects of God's being that would beyond our human minds.
This is good philosophical evidence that
Jesus's revelation is the true understanding and Way.
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